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Mouse grouse: Dis boss lays into computer biz


March 01, 2002

By Brooks Boliek
WASHINGTON -- Walt Disney Co. president and CEO Michael Eisner accused some computer manufacturers of profiting from copyright piracy during a contentious hearing Thursday before the Senate Commerce Committee.

"The killer app for the computer industry is piracy," Eisner told the committee during its hearing examining copyright problems in the digital realm. "They think their short-term growth is predicated on pirated content."

Eisner's words came during an extraordinary hearing during which Eisner, News Corp. president and chief operating officer Peter Chernin and Intel executive vp Leslie Vadasz asked one another as many questions as the lawmakers asked them.

Eisner told the panel that he was convinced that some computer manufacturers had adopted a unspoken sales-through-piracy doctrine after it was mentioned last year during a conference on broadband in Washington. He also cited advertising that computer makers were using that encouraged people to buy their products to burn CDs and DVDs.

While he said some information technology companies believed in copyright protection, he singled out Apple's "Rip. Mix. Burn." ad campaign, saying the company was telling people "that they can create a theft if they buy this computer."

Intel's Vadasz denied that his company, or the information technology industry as a whole, was using a business strategy built on an illegal activity.

"You can't build the kind of industry the size we are, and want to be, by illegitimate means," he told the committee.

Intel, and the makers of computers and other consumer devices, want to protect copyrighted works, Vadasz said. Not to do so would do more harm than good for the industry, he said.

"This problem needs to be solved," he told the panel. "The use of rich content is beneficial to our industry, the network industry and the media industry."

In a letter to the committee sent after the hearing to clarify some of his points, Vadasz wrote that "rip," "mix" and "burn" referred to "features that consumers have come to expect. The ability to rip, mix and burn in a protected manner is not piracy, it is simply fair use of content as permitted by law."

That was disputed by entertainment industry executives.

"That's like selling a crowbar and telling someone to smash, bash and steal," one executive quipped.

Chernin told the committee that the entertainment industry had no desire to stop people from what they normally and legally do.

"Home copying is a legitimate use," he said. "We do not believe in stopping home copying. We have no problem with people using our products in multiple devices in the home; it's the illegal (transportation) we oppose."

While Vadasz argued that the information technology industry was prepared to deal, he balked at the suggestion by Eisner and Chernin that computers and other electronic devices include a microprocessor that recognizes copyright-protection regimes.

He claimed that that would be an unnecessary intrusion into the marketplace and accused the entertainment industry of "technophobia."

"The issue is abdicating the design discussions of the microprocessor and creating a technological cul-de-sac for our products," he said. "I do not want to see our industry abdicate a key design issue to the entertainment industry."

While the executives of both industries pledged cooperation, there was little in evidence from the often-heated testimony. Both sides attempted to make economic arguments that their industry was more deserving of protection than the other.

Vadasz also bristled at the suggestion by Eisner and Chernin that the electronics industry install copyright-protection technology that would, in effect, police the Internet by preventing devices from displaying an illegally made product.

The entertainment industry wants to prevent illegal copies -- such as movies camcorded in a theater or otherwise illegally obtained -- from being distributed on the Internet.

"There are not technical solutions to all the problems of the world," Vadasz said. "You can cut bread with your kitchen knife, or you can kill somebody with it."

In his letter mailed to the committee after the hearing, Vadasz wrote that "content, once captured in 'unprotected' form, can never be put back in the 'bottle' and protected against copying on the Internet."

While Vadasz said the technology was unavailable, Eisner said it took a chip that cost only 80 cents.

"If it's a fact you cannot protect intellectual property on the Internet, I do not accept that," he said.

Disney and News Corp. are pushing for legislation that would require digital devices to recognize copyright-protection regimes even if the material was obtained illegally.

Sen. Fritz Hollings, D-S.C., chairman of the committee, has been circulating a proposal called the Security Systems Standards Act that would give the industries 18 months to develop an "open and common" standard for the technological protection of content.

If the private sector agrees on a standard, the Secretary of Commerce is directed to write regulations for its adoption by the industries. If the private sector cannot agree on a standard, then the commerce secretary is directed to promulgate federal rules adopting standards based on a public rulemaking.

Electronics makers would be given one year to incorporate the new standards into their machines, and the U.S. Commerce Department would conduct a periodic review of the standard.

Following the hearing, Hollings said he planned to introduce the bill soon, but intends to shorten the timetable, giving the industries 12 months to develop a plan rather than 18 months.

Hollings said he was getting fed up with the pace of the negotiations and placed most of the blame on the consumer electronics industry.

"Industry negotiations have been going on for years with little to show for it," he said.

He agreed with Eisner that some tech companies were profiting from the sale of products that facilitate Internet piracy. It is a situation that the information technology industry views, at best, with a blind eye.

"When I listen to the clarion call to the government, 'Please stay away from our business,' I am reminded of the police chief in 'Casablanca,' who feigned surprise and said, 'I'm shocked, shocked there is gambling going on here,' " Hollings said.










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